I'm throwing in the towel

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Dark_Ansem
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Backed: 07/22/2014 - 20:00
Post subject: I'm throwing in the towel

Domains @perihelioninteractive.com don't work anymore. At this point, I am throwing the towel in. The project is indeed dead.

Count Thalim
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Backed: 11/04/2013 - 08:53
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Looks like you are correct unfortunately. The below is the relevant section from their legal filings in Luxembourg where they were registered:

Extract for publication

End of domiciliation agreement

Concerning: Perihelion Interactive Sarl

  • Limited liability company
  • B192315

The domiciliataire Executive management sàrl (Seems to be their legal firm, they appear on a lot of companies), announces the fact that the domiciliation agreement and the agreement and the obligations arising therefrom ceasing from the date of filing of the denunciation in the Trade and Companies Register, namely 30/06/2017.

 

To be honest this is only making clear what has been expected for quite some time. The only chance of The Mandate seeing light of day now is for the rights to be bought up by a third party who go on to develop the game.

However with the dissolution of Perihelion Sarl there is pretty much no chance of any Kickstarter pledges being binding. The investment is gone and there is no legal recourse to be had, regardless of how you approach it.

A shame there was no formal annoucement and I am surprised the forums are still active. The chat appears to be unresponsive again and there is nothing to gain from the forums being maintained. The mods had been hoping to be able to take control and turn it into a general fan site feeding off the background that was built. We shall see but I am half expecting to log on one morning to find nothing remains.

 

Ours was the long wait, drifting through the void between stars, slumbering in the hope of a new future yet to come...

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

jarrettm3808
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Backed: 05/05/2015 - 08:00

Sigh. I was one of those unfortuneate enough to pledge $300 for this. At this point I would be happy if they just gave me the soundtrack and the art assests. 

I know they have them and I want them. It would be something to give us that they readily have available, instead of the nothing we received thus far.

Well farewell all. I will be conquering the universe playing Stellaris.

 

 

"One must always plan a few steps ahead in battle." - Char Aznable, The Red Comet

Veneke
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Backed: 10/04/2013 - 03:44
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Pretty sure we all saw this coming. The lack of any formal announcement is disappointing, but hardly surprising. 

Despite how it all turned out, it was pretty fun talking about the game with everyone here. I'm sure we'll come across each other again, either just generally on the internet or in the forum of some other game that does what the Mandate promised.

"In a time of war, we'd have never have left a man stranded."

"Maybe that's why we lost..."

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Eonasdan
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Backed: 11/23/2013 - 07:07
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This domain name expires 19-aug-2017 according to the whois. I'd expect for the site to be done at the point if not before. I'm that's only a month or so away.

Good luck mates and may the odds be ever in your favor.

Wiese2007
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Backed: 12/14/2013 - 00:38
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Yes it was to be expected - soo my Kickstarterscore is at the moment 2 failes (T&S and Mandate) and one still in progress (Stonehearth) - but Stonehearth has a very active developerteam and gives every week 2 inputs xD

Soooo i wish you all the best and we will see us on the next scifigame ;)

Colonel Paladonov
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Backed: 12/01/2013 - 07:42
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Alas, a dream game that was more than a dream for a time, but ahead of its time or actually too big to tackle by a small start-up.

It was a good run jousting the windmill ...

 

Rishard Turox Paladonov

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"burn the land, boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me!"

Sniddy
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Backed: 11/14/2013 - 05:23
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So

Step 1 - Make a great sounding Kickstarter and raise $$$

Step 2 - Mess about for a year or 2 pretending to be amking a game - put together some bare minimum rubbish to trot out at like one gameing gathering and make some poor fan mod level 'gameplay' videos 

Step 3 - Dissolve the company, act sad and pocket a few hundred K?

I mean Kickstarer ALLOWS this...Oh noes my copmany went under no way I can possiably finish - heres how the moneys spent 'honest' 

Mr. Seeker
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Backed: 10/24/2013 - 06:12
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Sniddy wrote:

I mean Kickstarer ALLOWS this...Oh noes my copmany went under no way I can possiably finish - heres how the moneys spent 'honest' 

Yes, and so does indiegogo and a lot of these "kickstarter" thingies...

lob
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Backed: 10/13/2013 - 18:17
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I guess I have been holding a sliver of hope, even during the last year of rapid decay.

For the team: I can forgive a failure to finish the project but not your lack of honesty.

For my fellow backers: In case we do not meet on some other forums: It has been an honor.

Eonasdan
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Backed: 11/23/2013 - 07:07
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I created a complete (or as close as I could) archive of this site with HTTRack. I've uploaded it here: https://github.com/Eonasdan/mandategame_archive/tree/master until Peri or Github, etc complains.

praguepride
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Backed: 10/20/2013 - 17:04
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I don't think this was ever intended to be a scam but looking back I see some red flags that I will note for the future. I thought the initial game was perfectly viable in unity until they started talking about simultaneous Ship and Boarding combat at the same time in the same window. There is a reason no other game comes close to showing simultaneous warfare at different scales.

I at the time assumed they had a great way to do it unforunately it sounds like they burned most of their money just trying to get the engines to work and fiddling around with Unity. I was completely won over by their setting and they kept releasing all this cool stuff like the ship designer and the prologue adventure. That is really where the money went though :(

Spyridon Giannoutsos
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Backed: 07/22/2014 - 20:00

Dear Fellow Forum Members

After the last develoment I now believe that the mandate is no more. Since the combat video had so much negative feedback, it was only natural that they had no more real viable game engines to throw at us.

The reason why the project failed is clear to all of us. It promised a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Great storyline, Sandbox gaming, co-op, and cutting edge technology which could support naval and crew combat at the sane time.

The reason that I am writting is to bit you all farewell, it case I don't get to do it in the near future. I personally will continiously to check the site until it closes, hoping for a miracle.

I have been following the mandate for 3 or 4 years now and it felt great to finally support a kind of a game that hasn't been released yet but I always wanted to play.

This is Spyridon D. Giannoutsos logging off from Greece!

PS: I am still not abandoming the bridge of my ship! It's just that... the lasers are cutting through the plating armor and I can hear the familiar sound of lost pressure in the command centre. And don't forget a tear in the hull and we are all gone!!!

  1. No Retreat
  2. No Remorse
  3. No Regrets
Sniddy
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Backed: 11/14/2013 - 05:23
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We all know the feeling - however I fear we'll be toyed with a little more 1st - before the final blast to take us out of misery 

SandSailor
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Backed: 11/22/2013 - 01:22
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Can't say I'm surprised this game's just withering into the ether. The promises made would be a daunting task for an experienced studio to deliver on with the limited budget the campaign raised.

Fair winds and following seas everyone. Hopefully we all have better luck with crowdfunding in the future.

thshine
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Backed: 10/04/2013 - 10:49
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I can always dream, but I suspect everyone is right and it is done. But I don't surrender, I will go down with my ship.

fregrant
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Backed: 07/20/2017 - 07:39

Im disppointed. Was expecting this game and it turns out a poof or even scam. Just found a real game, named Starsector. Maybe not so eyecandy, but gameplay is good plus bunch of mods. And you can really play it for 20 euros! Not see some videos and feeding by "breakfasts". I truly hope some of you will spread word further, and this game will become even more amazing. http://fractalsoftworks.com/ RIGHT, DEVS! GO **** YOURSELVES! SHAME ON YOU! YOU TOOK KILOTONS OF BUCKS, AND A GUY WHO TOOK 20 EURO BEATEN YOU! PS: Star Citizen also feeds the "breakfasts". PPS: russian words joke. In russian, "breakfast" means also like joke-slang "tomorrow". завтрак ~ завтра :)

Frozen-Monkey
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Backed: 11/30/2013 - 16:26
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It's f*****g cowardly of the dev's to not even release news that they've gone under and to close the website down.  They've taken a huge amount of money (and potentially still do as you're still able to pre-order through the website).  People have put trust in them to produce a game (backing on kickstarter is based on trust) and they've spurned that trust without even the common decency to say sorry.

 

This is the fourth game I've backed on Kickstarter that has failed to produce (out of 6) and I have no intention of doing it again.  In future I'll wait until a game is released and I certainly won't ever buy anything associated with these cowardly scumbags!

 

 

fregrant
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Backed: 07/20/2017 - 07:39

I began to doubt if there ever was any game. You know, make (or buy) some pictures/text/videos much more easier. So, kickstarter project was dated october '13 and reached 701k $. Release was "the next year", every year. So, 3+ years later we got no any real tech demo or whatever. Or maybe guys just aimed too high and failed. But I feel like we will not see the game anyway - patience spent, resources gone.

Whatever. I will just play Starsector and hope for someday.

 

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn86561595&docId=POA20170322...

BTW, look at this. More than 3 months ago (12 apr) USPTO requested some additions to trademark. So far, developers not answered.

 

Just looked at pre-order page (still works fine, heh).
Timeline:

Feature Alpha: Soon

Feature Beta: Soon

Content Beta: Soon

Launch: TBA

Wait. Wait. Are you guys F.G seriously? More than three years and 700 kilobucks later, "Alpha: soon"?

Frozen-Monkey
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Backed: 11/30/2013 - 16:26
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Just as a reminder to the Perihelion cowards, this was the agreement that they agreed to abide by with every kickstarter backer as per the Kickstarter terms of use:

 

If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:

they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.

 

 

Sniddy
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Backed: 11/14/2013 - 05:23
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We may get the explination 

But the company it's self no longer exists 

So yeh new life goal, promise something amazeballs on kickstarter under the Acme Uk banner 

Post some guff for a year or 2 pay a fraction to produce some poor vids 

Dissolve company 

Run off into the sunset 

ayareiko77
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Backed: 11/27/2013 - 05:40
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My KS/IGG score isn't very good either, but I think I notice a pattern

4 fails - Mandate, Shaq Fu 2, MN9, Star Citizen (Yes, I'm writing that one off too)

3 wins - Clannad PC, Skullgirls - Squiggly, Divinity: Original Sin

4 tbd - Bloodstained, La Mulana 2, Battletech, Divinity: Original Sin 2

My fails come from largely unestablished teams/companies without proven track records.  The successes are the opposite.

TheTingler
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Backed: 10/08/2013 - 02:27
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Don't know if this will help but I've written the current situation up as news on GameWatcher.com: https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2017-03-08-crowdfunded-space-strategy-rpg-the-mandate-seems-to-be-dead. I've asked Perihelion for a comment, but as they're most likely dissolved I'm not holding out hope.

Oh, and thank you guys for your digging into the legal areas. I've namechecked Count Thalim for the specific post above but thanks to the rest of you too!

guilmant
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Backed: 10/11/2013 - 21:41
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So, now it has come to this. Even more confirmation, that the game is never going to happen. I definitely have had enough of Kickstarter...

Well, it was an honour, Gentlemen.

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TheTingler
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Backed: 10/08/2013 - 02:27
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I've had a few Kickstarter successes and failures as I've backed loads, but the total failure of The Mandate is the one that stings the most. The game they described sounded like my ultimate game. I guess it was too good to be true.

For the last year, after backing too many games, I've made a rule: only back things I'm actually going to play the moment they come out, and I'm fairly sure they'll be happening. System Shock, Psychonauts 2, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Banner Saga 3, Video Games Live, Consortium: The Tower, these types of things. They don't have to be big, but I have to feel fairly confident in them and excited. 

Admittedly The Mandate would've got my money even now, with that fantastic pitch. I championed it too, urging so many people to go and back it. My bad.

chunkyman
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Backed: 12/02/2013 - 09:19
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Does anyone know if the developers have a personal Twitter or Facebook or something we can ask them wtf happened on?

 

Like I get the project is completely toast and I even understand that sometimes you might overreach and things don't end up panning out. What is not acceptable is taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from people and then just withering the project away without so much as a whisper. It's a chickenshit, liberal way to act and I would at least expect a man to say "Sorry about what happened, we screwed up really bad" and at least end things on a respectable note.

Colonel Paladonov
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Backed: 12/01/2013 - 07:42
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The moderators and some members tried contact via several varied methods including LinkedIn, email, Facebook besides forum methods. Essentially no response other than the last update. 

Rishard Turox Paladonov

Colonel of the Reserves

Master of the Operational Art of War

Instructor Pilot of Lightcraft

"burn the land, boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me!"

r-cane
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Backed: 05/05/2014 - 08:44

Well, I dont have social media and I'm not going to. Which is the only reason why I dont spam everyone who was part of the games production team's social media with accusations that they commited fraud or took part in it, until someone cant take it anymore and finally bursts out of the cover.

You can ignore something only so much.

Right now with the amount of ex-perihelion people working for MATSUKO I think they just grabbed most of the money and putted it into MATSUKO and released some shit so that it wasn't to obvious.

So, if anyone wants to spam MATSUKO, or the team who worked on the Mandate with angry comments, feel free to do so. We paid enough money to warrant that.

Sniddy
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Backed: 11/14/2013 - 05:23
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I posted a review of the company based on the kinds of people it'd employ - definatly  name to go on the 'don't even bother' list 

Noctifer
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Backed: 08/27/2014 - 08:56

Oh dang, just checked in.. well.. this sucks. I'm two three for three now. This, Revival, and immortal vigilance (that became a poor PlanetSide-clone). *Sigh*. I have got to stop backing up anything until there are playable betas at least. Or it's an experienced team - backing Battletech cause their shadowrun stuff was awesome!

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